The frequencies need to be swapped in the table: "AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Pro WX-Series (Zen 4)" too. I also noticed this mix up as well: "WRX90 boards will support 8 channel of memory, for up to 1 TB of DDR5-5200 RDIMMs"Reply
intel answer to this is a dual socket motherboard just like in the Xeon series. For every 1p sales of AMD , Intel has to counter it with a 2P sales to come near in performance. The additional wasted power consumption, numa complexity, etc. is something they prefer not to mention....Reply
That was an answer to the Zen 3 based Threadrippers. We know that the current SPR based Xeon's are only really able to compete with Epyc 7003 series when accelerators aren't used.Reply
Something not mentioned in the article but that should be touched upon: I don't think the IOD in these new Threadripper/TR PRO lineups has any kind of integrated GPU, unlike the Radeon GPU that is in the Ryzen 7000 series IOD. That means a discrete GPU, even if just a low-end one, is required. Maybe I am wrong about that though.Reply
ASPEED will absolutely land on the motherboard PCB where needed and they don't add a lot of cost to an already rather expansive board. Lets get our ASPEED game on!Reply
In fairness, we should wait until there are comparable benchmarks from reputable sources. Although AMD has a reputation for publishing more accurate TDP numbers than Intel, we really shouldn't squirm in our seats until a disinterested third party takes measurements.Reply
Why is the base clock on the 7980X so low? Even the 3990X had a higher base clock than that, and it had a lower TDP! The 7985WX has a much higher base clock with the same TDP and more PCIe/memory lanes to boot. The other SKUs seem to have more reasonable base clocks, but why the outlier?Reply
Ninety-six threads...in a workstation. Jeepers! This triggered a fit of nostalgia and I went and read a bit of Wikipedia on the VAX 8300/8350. These were dual processor (2 cores, in modernspeak), each 5-6.5 Mhz, and fit in a single 8U enclosure without the storage.
IBM Power11 will have 1024-bit registers, but still no flying cars. :(Reply
There won't be flying cars for a long time people can barely drive as is. We may see flying automated taxis at some point but expected fully automated road cars first that can speak to each other and will basically be a taxi. Reply
Flying cars?! NO! Driving is scary enough without adding altitude as a factor. Hyper-aggressive pickup truck beard face rednecks are already working as hard as possible to intimidate and kill anyone that respects the posted speed limit. We don't need those irresponsible morons in the sky. I'd just be happy with vehicles being illegal to own and a fleet of efficient, fully automated cars available as a transportation-as-a service model. We need fewer impatient, gun-touting crazies that have no emotional control driving.Reply
Flying cars would never be manually controllable. The user base would be too small if a pilot's license was a prerequisite to ownership. So the morons you speak of will be limited to controlling ground vehicles.Reply
It is funny how long ago outsider starting with cheap processors after becoming a leader started packing its 10-20 dollars to produce chiplets into 10000 dollar arm and leg products. 50-100x profitReply
This socket is also used by AMD's Sienna platform which houses Zen 4c dies. It appears that most of these are still Zen 4 instead of the C variant to reach the higher clock speeds. I do wonder if higher clocked Zen 4 parts are going to appear in the Eypc 8004 series. On the other end of things, it'd be interesting to see if any motherboard maker will enable unofficial Sienna support.
I do wonder if we'll be seeing V-cache enabled variants or if AMD will keep that feature isolated to the larger Epyc socket for servers. or the consumer focused AM5 for gaming. I'd also curious if AMD will release any low core, high clock, V-cache enabled parts. These are great for the high single threaded performance due to the clocks and insane amounts of cache per core.
Overall, this announcement seems a bit rushed looking at other pieces on it. It makes me feel like this was moved forward. I wonder if AMD is clearing space on the time line for the appearance of Zen 5 which makes me feel like it'll be sooner rather later (CES preview?). AMD's CPU division has been firing on all cylinders and Intel has given them another opportunity with the rebranded 13th gen as 14th gen from Intel. Reply
a ~7950X bandwidth for 4x DRAM DDR5-6000 ~73-78-81GB/s(cp,rd,wr) (cp ~3/4 on Zen4 128bit memory data bus, theoretically 96GB/s) a 16 core, multithread, L1data read bandwidth ~4-(4.x)TB/s (lower to ~equal 32kB/core, 512kB)Reply
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Makaveli - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
This was a great write up lots of info thank you. Replycolonelclaw - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Typo in "AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Pro WX-Series (Zen 4)" table. Base and Turbo frequencies the wrong way around on 5 of the SKUs. ReplyRyan Smith - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Fixed. Thanks! Replylove2fly59 - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
The frequencies need to be swapped in the table: "AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Pro WX-Series (Zen 4)" too.
I also noticed this mix up as well: "WRX90 boards will support 8 channel of memory, for up to 1 TB of DDR5-5200 RDIMMs" Reply
meacupla - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Intel's answer to this will be.... a 5000W CPU, my guess. Replyduploxxx - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
intel answer to this is a dual socket motherboard just like in the Xeon series. For every 1p sales of AMD , Intel has to counter it with a 2P sales to come near in performance. The additional wasted power consumption, numa complexity, etc. is something they prefer not to mention.... Replyim.thatoneguy - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Actually Intel had a very sensible answer to this announced 6 months ago.https://www.anandtech.com/show/18741/intel-launche... Reply
schujj07 - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
That was an answer to the Zen 3 based Threadrippers. We know that the current SPR based Xeon's are only really able to compete with Epyc 7003 series when accelerators aren't used. ReplyCrystalCowboy - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
"There are quite a few integral implementations through gritty"This could use some work. I would offer a suggestion but I can't figure out what was intended. Reply
Ryan Smith - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Spell checkers (AI!) run amok. Thanks! ReplyNextGen_Gamer - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Something not mentioned in the article but that should be touched upon: I don't think the IOD in these new Threadripper/TR PRO lineups has any kind of integrated GPU, unlike the Radeon GPU that is in the Ryzen 7000 series IOD. That means a discrete GPU, even if just a low-end one, is required. Maybe I am wrong about that though. Replyim.thatoneguy - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
I'd assume since TR Pro usually has out_-of-band management that it must have some sort of basic display device. Reply
ZoZo - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Some motherboards will have that in the form of an ASPEED chip for IPMI. ReplyPeachNCream - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
ASPEED will absolutely land on the motherboard PCB where needed and they don't add a lot of cost to an already rather expansive board. Lets get our ASPEED game on! Replypatel21 - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Wow 350W TDP for upto 96 Cores Threadripper vs 420W for 14th Gen i9 !!! ReplyPeachNCream - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
In fairness, we should wait until there are comparable benchmarks from reputable sources. Although AMD has a reputation for publishing more accurate TDP numbers than Intel, we really shouldn't squirm in our seats until a disinterested third party takes measurements. ReplyFatFlatulentGit - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Why is the base clock on the 7980X so low? Even the 3990X had a higher base clock than that, and it had a lower TDP! The 7985WX has a much higher base clock with the same TDP and more PCIe/memory lanes to boot. The other SKUs seem to have more reasonable base clocks, but why the outlier? Replythomasjkenney - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Ninety-six threads...in a workstation. Jeepers! This triggered a fit of nostalgia and I went and read a bit of Wikipedia on the VAX 8300/8350. These were dual processor (2 cores, in modernspeak), each 5-6.5 Mhz, and fit in a single 8U enclosure without the storage.IBM Power11 will have 1024-bit registers, but still no flying cars. :( Reply
Makaveli - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
There won't be flying cars for a long time people can barely drive as is. We may see flying automated taxis at some point but expected fully automated road cars first that can speak to each other and will basically be a taxi. ReplyPeachNCream - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Flying cars?! NO! Driving is scary enough without adding altitude as a factor. Hyper-aggressive pickup truck beard face rednecks are already working as hard as possible to intimidate and kill anyone that respects the posted speed limit. We don't need those irresponsible morons in the sky. I'd just be happy with vehicles being illegal to own and a fleet of efficient, fully automated cars available as a transportation-as-a service model. We need fewer impatient, gun-touting crazies that have no emotional control driving. Replycharlesg - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Your political ideology is showing again. ReplyPeachNCream - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
Don't be silly. There isn't a political sub-group that wants someone to threaten them with a firearm during a road rage incident. ReplyThe Von Matrices - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Flying cars would never be manually controllable. The user base would be too small if a pilot's license was a prerequisite to ownership. So the morons you speak of will be limited to controlling ground vehicles. ReplyJeromePower - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
Cautionary tale of the over-trained.Your flood of data and aversion to entropy is why you refuse to explore, and never innovate.
You will be able to drive yourself, but never wreck yourself; and bud, anew.
Maybe it's the next model. Reply
SanX - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
It is funny how long ago outsider starting with cheap processors after becoming a leader started packing its 10-20 dollars to produce chiplets into 10000 dollar arm and leg products. 50-100x profit ReplyIgor_Kavinski - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
7960X price shattered my dreams of having one in this life. Thank you, AMD. ReplyKevin G - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
This socket is also used by AMD's Sienna platform which houses Zen 4c dies. It appears that most of these are still Zen 4 instead of the C variant to reach the higher clock speeds. I do wonder if higher clocked Zen 4 parts are going to appear in the Eypc 8004 series. On the other end of things, it'd be interesting to see if any motherboard maker will enable unofficial Sienna support.I do wonder if we'll be seeing V-cache enabled variants or if AMD will keep that feature isolated to the larger Epyc socket for servers. or the consumer focused AM5 for gaming. I'd also curious if AMD will release any low core, high clock, V-cache enabled parts. These are great for the high single threaded performance due to the clocks and insane amounts of cache per core.
Overall, this announcement seems a bit rushed looking at other pieces on it. It makes me feel like this was moved forward. I wonder if AMD is clearing space on the time line for the appearance of Zen 5 which makes me feel like it'll be sooner rather later (CES preview?). AMD's CPU division has been firing on all cylinders and Intel has given them another opportunity with the rebranded 13th gen as 14th gen from Intel. Reply
back2future - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
a ~7950X bandwidth for 4x DRAM DDR5-6000 ~73-78-81GB/s(cp,rd,wr) (cp ~3/4 on Zen4 128bit memory data bus, theoretically 96GB/s)a 16 core, multithread, L1data read bandwidth ~4-(4.x)TB/s (lower to ~equal 32kB/core, 512kB) Reply
skavac - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
Could you check if the 4ccd sku is using GMI3-WIDE? I'm not sure since the slides didn't mention it. Reply