VERY nearly the perfect NUC-computer, at least to me. It has the 8-core Core i3 N300, a full PCIe 3.0 x4 slot for the M.2, and state of the art cooling. But that 8GB of LPDDR5 memory! As someone else here already reported, I really hope Zotac makes the 16GB model announced available as well.Reply
It's could a be limitation of the cpu. I do feel the 8gb is deal breaker however the 7w tdp limit has me concern about the performance. I know the n300 is huge step up from the Celeron they previously offer this form factor. I hope Anandtech will review one this year.Reply
There is no limitation. Alder Lake-N can support 16 GB officially, 32 GB unofficially (always single-channel).
As for the TDP, Intel didn't put out base/turbo TDPs for Alder Lake-N, unlike every other chip they have put out since Alder Lake, but it's known they can use more power than what is stated. If the AirJet cooling can "dissipate 10W", I'm not sure that it is the limit of what the CPU can use. 15-20W sustained could be fine, for example. That mystery can be solved by reviewers, and I assume there will be some high profile reviews given this is the first product using AirJet.Reply
As a lot of others have already pointed out, 8GB RAM is insufficient. 16GB would be a much better starting point. I feel like this undermines the unique cooling solution and discourages early adopter interest. Yes, I get by with 8GB just fine, but I think most people would be quite discouraged and avoid a purchase.Reply
Airjet sounds great but why is the first adapter not a standard 15W notebook of the obvious intended market for this cooling solution? What are the current issues?Reply
The issue is the performance for higher power CPU and maybe cost. AirJet mini is readily available now so it fits Zoctac mini PC perfectly. I'm sure laptop are being develop with air jet pro are in the work. I think they said at CES AirJet pro are still in development for mass product at later date than the AirJet mini. Reply
I think it might have to do with designing a new PCB around Airjet. For a Mini-PC, all you have to do is design a new cooler and enclosure.
For a laptop, the existing PCB is not designed with Airjet cooling in mind. The PCB has a cutout for a blower type fan, and a spot for the heatsink fins at the end of a snaking heatpipe. 15W cooling would still require 3 Airjets, so I would guess that requires a complete redesign of the PCB and internal layout.Reply
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meacupla - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
If they had equipped this with 12GB or 16GB of RAM, that would have been perfect. Replynandnandnand - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
It was previously reported that it would come with up to 16 GB. Maybe they'll make that model available later:https://www.pcmag.com/news/airjet-cooling-chip-com... Reply
NextGen_Gamer - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
VERY nearly the perfect NUC-computer, at least to me. It has the 8-core Core i3 N300, a full PCIe 3.0 x4 slot for the M.2, and state of the art cooling. But that 8GB of LPDDR5 memory! As someone else here already reported, I really hope Zotac makes the 16GB model announced available as well. ReplyTechguy123 - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
It's could a be limitation of the cpu. I do feel the 8gb is deal breaker however the 7w tdp limit has me concern about the performance. I know the n300 is huge step up from the Celeron they previously offer this form factor. I hope Anandtech will review one this year. Replynandnandnand - Saturday, October 21, 2023 - link
There is no limitation. Alder Lake-N can support 16 GB officially, 32 GB unofficially (always single-channel).As for the TDP, Intel didn't put out base/turbo TDPs for Alder Lake-N, unlike every other chip they have put out since Alder Lake, but it's known they can use more power than what is stated. If the AirJet cooling can "dissipate 10W", I'm not sure that it is the limit of what the CPU can use. 15-20W sustained could be fine, for example. That mystery can be solved by reviewers, and I assume there will be some high profile reviews given this is the first product using AirJet. Reply
cbf123 - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
Correction, it’s not passively cooled. This is an active cooling element. ReplyPeachNCream - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
As a lot of others have already pointed out, 8GB RAM is insufficient. 16GB would be a much better starting point. I feel like this undermines the unique cooling solution and discourages early adopter interest. Yes, I get by with 8GB just fine, but I think most people would be quite discouraged and avoid a purchase. Replywr3zzz - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
Airjet sounds great but why is the first adapter not a standard 15W notebook of the obvious intended market for this cooling solution? What are the current issues? ReplyTechguy123 - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
The issue is the performance for higher power CPU and maybe cost. AirJet mini is readily available now so it fits Zoctac mini PC perfectly. I'm sure laptop are being develop with air jet pro are in the work. I think they said at CES AirJet pro are still in development for mass product at later date than the AirJet mini. Replymeacupla - Saturday, October 21, 2023 - link
I think it might have to do with designing a new PCB around Airjet.For a Mini-PC, all you have to do is design a new cooler and enclosure.
For a laptop, the existing PCB is not designed with Airjet cooling in mind. The PCB has a cutout for a blower type fan, and a spot for the heatsink fins at the end of a snaking heatpipe.
15W cooling would still require 3 Airjets, so I would guess that requires a complete redesign of the PCB and internal layout. Reply
nandnandnand - Saturday, October 21, 2023 - link
It seems like it would be much faster to design a mini PC around fitting two of these cooling modules. And that's exactly what happened. Reply